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King said 626 days ago:
SeekingFocus said 626 days ago:
It's very difficult to make out just what this is. I *believe* it must be a light bulb, though I certainly can't be sure as it's so blurry and nothing seems to be in focus...
Whatever it is, it certainly does seem to be broken, I get that. Unfortunately, all other impact of this shot seems to be lost.
SeekingFocus said 626 days ago:
@King
Reciprocity failure happens to be one of my favorite photographic terms! (And one of my least favorite obstacles, especially at night!)
Coincidentally, I have just (this week) begun Reciprocity Images, as a semi-professional side project.
Only had the opportunity to use a view camera on one occasion, but one day I'll own one... and, f/64? I wish!
P.S. http://www.seekingfocus.com/WS/Scheimpflug.jpg
@beckjo4
Sorry to hijack the thread!
Ana said 626 days ago:
some kind of bulb? I wish this were a tad more clear as to what is being seen. I can tell it's relevant!
groen65 said 626 days ago:
Very different. I can detect a jagged edge, but find it difficult to rate as I can't really tell what is going on. An interesting abstract and brave posting.
mooch said 626 days ago:
Due to the focus, I cannot work out what this is or if it is actually broken. Which I find rather frustrating.
King said 626 days ago:
Jason,
The link you posted appears to refer to the hyperfocal distance (another good one), which is not the same as the Scheimflug effect.
http://www.seekingfocus.com/WS/Scheimpflug.jpg
Anybody know that the hyperfocal distance is and how and when to use it...this is an easy one for folks who own manual-focus lenses.
bioLarzen said 626 days ago:
Don't know what I'm looking at but it sure is broken...
I don't care what technically could be better here, it got me and it deserves 25.
SeekingFocus said 625 days ago:
King,
While the two principles (I believe) may be related, hyperfocal distance, is used to keep objects in focus across an assumed parallel (to the object being focused upon) film plane. For instance, with an SLR, TLR, etc., where the film plane is fixed to be parallel with the lens plane (with the exception of tilt and shift-lenses), hyperfocal distance would be the distance at which the widest range of focus is achieved. That is, that the most objects throughout the field of view are in focus, while keeping objects at infinity relatively sharp. (e.g. A wide DOF.)
The Scheimpflug effect has to do with keeping the three photographic planes (object plane, lens plane, and film plane) parallel, or distorting them to control depth of field. This concept can be used to either compensate for objects not on a parallel field, or be used to distort an object that is on a parallel plane.
It's quite tough to explain this without diagrams...
Page four of the link below will help tremendously to demonstrate what I am so inadequately trying to describe:
http://www.trenholm.org/hmmerk/FVCADNDM.pdf
King said 625 days ago:
SeekingFocus...I hope you don't understand the old man. I'm quite an expert in using both the hyperfocul distance and the Scheimpflug effect. I was testing you.
I won't take any more of Jonathan's space to yak, but thanks for playing!
King said 625 days ago:
@Jason again (sorry Jonathan),
If the old man could spell, that might help.
First, Jason, you pass.
Second, the link you provided provides an excellent diagram of the Scheimpflug effect.
http://www.trenholm.org/hmmerk/FVCADNDM.pdf
By the way, the Scheimpflug effect can be used on either the vertical axis (as diagramed), the horizontal axis, or on both at the same time. It's a great benefit of working with the view camera.
For instance, at the same aperture used by Jonathan, the item in the photo above could very easily be photograhed with a view camera such some that part of the broken thing would be in perfect focus throughout its entire length, front to back.
Hyperfocal distance and Scheimpflug are not related except as they are both photographic terms. They can be used together, and usually are by careful view camera photographers, but one is not necessary to the other.
Here's how I define hyperfocal distance: with a lens of a given focal length (say 100mm), the hyperfocal distance if the combination of f-stop and focal plane (the point of focus) that will provide the appearance of sharpness from your subject to the horizon (i.e., infinity).
View camera product photographers (who are often working at close distances to their subject and the horizon is irrelevant) use a variation. They use the Scheimpflug effect to establish the plane of focus (which is two dimensional) such that the desired combination of f-stop and shutter speed (or flash output) will provide the depth of field necessary to encompass the areas of the subject that is needed to appear to be in focus.
Tanja said 625 days ago:
can't quite see what it is...hum?
martylavender said 624 days ago:
From what I can see this is a light bulb?! Is this what you intended for us to see? I dont think this really grabs me like it should
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I guess this is some kind of broken vaccum tube. It is obvious that this is a high-quality image and I like the light quality.
However, I'm not a fan of shooting with very shallow depth of field unless it enhances the photo--which I do not think it does effectively in this case. Otherwise, I think it's a gimmick. Just because one's lens opens to f1.2 doesn't mean you *ever* have to use that aperture. Just a pet peeve, and I'm not discounting this image because of it.
Okay, raise your hands if you've shot at f64 or smaller aperture, have used a view camera, can explain the Scheimpflug principle or remember what the hell reciprocity failure is (it's a pre-digital, long-exposure complication).